Hamas attacks Israel

[petros]

Yup

How so? In nonpropanganda news sources its clear as a bell they've been negotiating for it for years and everytime they are close to an agreement Israel kills it by refusing to leave the West Bank. Every fucking time. It's those refusals that created Hamas and turned them violent.

Would you like to read about it?

This all could have been settled decades if Israelis weren't fucking dickheads.

 

[spaminator]

Keffiyeh-waving protesters banned from Ontario legislature
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Liam Casey
Published May 01, 2024 • 3 minute read

Four protesters who unfurled keffiyehs inside Ontario’s legislature and were subsequently kicked out have been banned from Queen’s Park.


Mariam Bebawy said she and three friends from York Centre 4 Palestine were given trespass notices last week from the Legislative Assembly of Ontario’s sergeant-at-arms after they held out their keffiyehs and began chanting “free, free Palestine” during question period.


Bebawy’s notice said she is prohibited from entering the premises of the main legislative building and a government building nearby.

“I don’t think it’s fair at all,” Bebawy told The Canadian Press. “It’s pretty racist, honestly.”

A keffiyeh is a checkered scarf typically worn in Arab cultures that has come to symbolize, in part, solidarity with Palestinians.

Speaker Ted Arnott banned keffiyehs at the legislature earlier this year, saying they are being worn to make a political statement. All four party leaders, including Premier Doug Ford, have asked for the ban to be overturned.



Neither Arnott’s office nor sergeant-at-arms Tim McGough responded to several requests for comment.

Last Tuesday, NDP Leader Marit Stiles filed a motion seeking unanimous consent of the house to overturn the keffiyeh ban. It failed after at least one Progressive Conservative legislator objected. It was Stiles’ second attempt to reverse the ban.

Sarah Jama, who sits as an Independent after being kicked out of the NDP caucus last year, took out a keffiyeh and draped it over her shoulders during that time. No one seemed to notice and she wore it until the end of question period.


Around the same time, Bebawy and her friends sitting in the public gallery took out their keffiyehs and began shouting various chants, including “you can’t cancel us.”

Legislative security acted quickly and escorted the four out of the building without incident.

Two days later, Jama donned the keffiyeh again during question period and was ordered out of the chamber by the Speaker. She refused to leave and remained in the chamber. Arnott later said he was not prepared to use physical force to remove Jama.

Jama has said the ban is racist and has vowed to continue wearing the keffiyeh inside the chamber.

Bebawy said she and her friends offered little resistance other than refusing to take off their keffiyehs as security marched them through the building to the door.


“The supervisor was saying that we were resisting, that we weren’t leaving right away and that we wanted to stay inside the gallery, but that wasn’t true,” she said.

The incident in the chamber lasted about a minute before they left in silence.

Bebawy said they were at first cautioned by security to never do that again, but minutes later that was upgraded to a written trespass notice.

There is one exception to the notice: If they have a confirmed appointment with an MPP, they will be escorted to and from that meeting at Queen’s Park.

“Any contravention of this order may result in you being arrested and charged under the Trespass to Property Act,” the sergeant-at-arms wrote.

Bebawy said security told her she can reach out to the Speaker after a year to try to get the ban rescinded.

Politicians are not at Queen’s Park this week, but the legislature resumes sitting Monday. Stiles has said she and “the community” will defy the keffiyeh ban if it is not reversed by then.

Keffiyeh-waving protesters banned from Ontario legislature

Four protesters who unfurled keffiyehs inside Ontario's legislature and were subsequently kicked out have been banned from Queen's Park.

torontosun.com

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Honk honk.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Honk honk.

Allahu Akbar?

 

[Jinentonix]

How so? In nonpropanganda news sources its clear as a bell they've been negotiating for it for years and everytime they are close to an agreement Israel kills it by refusing to leave the West Bank. Every fucking time. It's those refusals that created Hamas and turned them violent.

Would you like to read about it?

This all could have been settled decades if Israelis weren't fucking dickheads.

So we're going to pretend that on the occasions when Israel de-occupied Palestinian territory there wasn't rocket attacks on Israel from those very locations within hours? Every fucking time.

 

[petros]

So we're going to pretend that on the occasions when Israel de-occupied Palestinian territory there wasn't rocket attacks on Israel from those very locations within hours? Every fucking time.

Are we going to pretend that everytime a Palestinian came into Israel to work its wasn't slave labour and treated as such?

Think about it. Have you ever heard the phrases Jewish day labourer? Jewish electrician, Jewish bricklayer, Jewish mechanic?

None of this is true?

Reports of human rights violations against Palestinians by Israel include reports of illegal or random killings, random or unwarranted detention (both of Palestinians in Israel and the occupied territories) restrictions on Palestinians residing in Jerusalem including random or illegal interference with privacy, family, and home, considerable interference with the freedom of peaceful assembly and association, limiting and occasionally restricting access to the Al-Aqsa Mosque compound, random or illegal interference with privacy, punishment of family members for alleged offenses by a relative, restrictions on freedom of expression and media including censorship, illegal routine harassment of nongovernmental organizations, unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation and threats of violence against Palestinians, targeted killings of Palestinians, and labor rights abuses against Palestinian workers. In addition, human rights organizations have described the state of Israel as an apartheid regime.[1][2][3][4]

Israel's blockade of the Gaza Strip has been described as a form of collective punishment and a serious violation of international humanitarian law.[5][6] Israel's military campaigns in the Gaza Strip include Operation Cast Lead which was described by the UN Fact Finding Mission as a "a deliberately disproportionate attack designed to punish, humiliate and terrorize a civilian population, radically diminish its local economic capacity both to work and to provide for itself, and to force upon it an ever increasing sense of dependency and vulnerability."[7]

Israel has also long been accused of illegally harvesting organs of Palestinians. The first evidence of illegal organ harvesting of Palestinians dates back to the early 1990s.[8][9][10] Israel has admitted that Israeli pathologists harvested organs from dead Palestinians without the consent of their families,[11][12] and the first Israeli heart transplant was in fact a stolen Palestinian's organ.[13] Some Israeli physicians have spoken against illegal organ harvesting of Palestinians that is performed without family approval.[14]

 

[Dixie Cup]

How so? In nonpropanganda news sources its clear as a bell they've been negotiating for it for years and everytime they are close to an agreement Israel kills it by refusing to leave the West Bank. Every fucking time. It's those refusals that created Hamas and turned them violent.

Would you like to read about it?

This all could have been settled decades if Israelis weren't fucking dickheads.

This would have been accomplished years ago if the Palestinian representatives would have accepted Israel's proposals which gave the Palestinians pretty much everything they wanted but then Arafat kyboshed it all. So don't give me the B.S. that it's on Israel. It takes 2 to tumble & when one side persists on wanting the other side completely destroyed (i.e. genocide) then obviously no peace can ever be attained. Don't be stupid. Israel isn't perfect but I'll choose them over the Terrorist organizations each & every time!!

 

[petros]

This would have been accomplished years ago if the Palestinian representatives would have accepted Israel's proposals which gave the Palestinians pretty much everything they wanted but then Arafat kyboshed it all. So don't give me the B.S. that it's on Israel. It takes 2 to tumble & when one side persists on wanting the other side completely destroyed (i.e. genocide) then obviously no peace can ever be attained. Don't be stupid. Israel isn't perfect but I'll choose them over the Terrorist organizations each & every time!!

Ummmm bullshit. It's been the same issue all along. Get the fuck out of the West Bank.

 

[Serryah]

 

[Ron in Regina]

The armed wing of Palestinian Islamist group Hamas claimed responsibility on Sunday for an attack on the Kerem Shalom crossing between Israel and Gaza, which Israeli and Palestinian media reports said had resulted in Israeli casualties.

Israel's military said 10 projectiles were launched from Rafah in southern Gaza towards the crossing, which it said was now closed to aid trucks going into the coastal enclave. However, other crossings remain open.

Hamas' armed wing said it fired rockets at an Israeli army base by the crossing, but did not confirm where it fired them from. Hamas media quoted a source close to the group saying the commercial crossing was not the target…but nobody hit a hospital this time so…

More than a million Palestinians are sheltering in Rafah, near the border with Egypt. Sunday's attack on the crossing came as hopes dimmed for ceasefire talks underway in Cairo. Israel has vowed to enter the southern Gaza city and flush out Hamas forces there, but has faced mounting pressure to hold fire as the operation could derail fragile humanitarian efforts in Gaza and endanger many more lives.

Israel attacks Rafah after Hamas claims responsibility for deadly rocket attack — Reuters

Three Israeli soldiers were killed in a rocket attack claimed by Hamas armed wing, near the southern Gaza Strip city of Rafah, where Palestinian health officials said at least 19 people were killed by Israeli fire on Sunday.

apple.news

Gospel according to Peter 6.66

"33 hostages for 40 days and nights of ceasefire decreed the Lord "

I’m betting on at least 2 for 1….meaning the 20 surviving hostages that fit the parameters (women, children, elderly, wounded) that Hamas can find for 40 days ceasefire in the initial stage.

Israel has given a preliminary nod to terms that one source said included the return of between 20 and 33 hostages in exchange for the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners and a truce of several weeks.

Then Hamas will start swapping others & corpses to extend it into a “permanent” ceasefire until Hamas breaks it again.

That would leave around 100 hostages in Gaza, some of whom Israel says have died in captivity. The source, who asked not to be identified by name or nationality, told Reuters their return “may” (???) require an additional deal. May require? Really?

Cairo talks continue but hopes for Gaza ceasefire appear slim — Reuters

Prospects for a Gaza ceasefire appeared slim on Sunday as Hamas reiterated its demand for an end to the war in exchange for the freeing of hostages, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flatly ruled that out.

apple.news

 

[Taxslave2]

Russia and China are endorsing Hamas to run the West bank now

Of course they would.

 

[Taxslave2]

At it's core? I think, depending on who you are, it's both. And that's part of the problem.



They did, and did deserve retaliation for it.

But there's retaliation and then there's annihilation/genocide.



In the Civil War, you can't compare that to today's warfare. It'd be totally different if this was being fought with muskets, cannons, sailing ships and men on the field.

WWII - I don't think bringing that into this will help you any. It's because of WWII this is an issue. It's because of WWII - in part - that Israel gets away with it's shit.

What's going on in Gaza/Israel would be like if... say the Sudetenland had attacked Germany first, then Germany stomped on it until there was nearly nothing left. And they claimed they could get away with it, because the region belongs to them anyway and the people there were asking for it (in a nutshell).

And then there's the question I keep asking - when is the blood spilled going to be enough to sate either side? Whether Hamas or Israeli Government... when will it stop?

It will stop when fat old men in charge stand 10 yards apart and shoot at each other.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

It will stop when fat old men in charge stand 10 yards apart and shoot at each other.

Why would that stop it? You know they'll all miss.

"They shouldn't have set their phasers to 'Miss'."
--Crow T. Robot, MST3K

 

[Taxslave2]

All the fighters will be laughing so hard, they will forget to kill each other.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

All the fighters will be laughing so hard, they will forget to kill each other.

Maybe that's what we need. . . the Department of Comedy.

Or up there, I guess you'd call it Jokes Canada.

Shades of the famous Monty Python sketch about the weaponization of the funniest joke in history, that caused people to literally die laughing when they heard it.

 

[Taxslave2]

Jokes Canada is right next door to the Ministry of Redundancy Ministry.

 

[petros]

The armed wing of Palestinian Islamist group Hamas claimed responsibility on Sunday for an attack on the Kerem Shalom crossing between Israel and Gaza, which Israeli and Palestinian media reports said had resulted in Israeli casualties.

Israel's military said 10 projectiles were launched from Rafah in southern Gaza towards the crossing, which it said was now closed to aid trucks going into the coastal enclave. However, other crossings remain open.

Hamas' armed wing said it fired rockets at an Israeli army base by the crossing, but did not confirm where it fired them from. Hamas media quoted a source close to the group saying the commercial crossing was not the target…but nobody hit a hospital this time so…

More than a million Palestinians are sheltering in Rafah, near the border with Egypt. Sunday's attack on the crossing came as hopes dimmed for ceasefire talks underway in Cairo. Israel has vowed to enter the southern Gaza city and flush out Hamas forces there, but has faced mounting pressure to hold fire as the operation could derail fragile humanitarian efforts in Gaza and endanger many more lives.

Israel attacks Rafah after Hamas claims responsibility for deadly rocket attack — Reuters

Three Israeli soldiers were killed in a rocket attack claimed by Hamas armed wing, near the southern Gaza Strip city of Rafah, where Palestinian health officials said at least 19 people were killed by Israeli fire on Sunday.

apple.news

Israel has given a preliminary nod to terms that one source said included the return of between 20 and 33 hostages in exchange for the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners and a truce of several weeks.

That would leave around 100 hostages in Gaza, some of whom Israel says have died in captivity. The source, who asked not to be identified by name or nationality, told Reuters their return “may” (???) require an additional deal. May require? Really?

Cairo talks continue but hopes for Gaza ceasefire appear slim — Reuters

Prospects for a Gaza ceasefire appeared slim on Sunday as Hamas reiterated its demand for an end to the war in exchange for the freeing of hostages, and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu flatly ruled that out.

apple.news

I dont give a flying fuck about Israel and their bullshit lies to keep milking the braindead goyim by repeating "Oct 7" when they martyred 1400 people starting a disproportionate slaughter and use that to illegally confiscste another 3 1/2 sq mile of the West Bank.

Why the fuck should we arming their illegal occupation? The Soah? The Shoah is long over. Do you hear of Ukrainians slaughtering children because of the Holodomor?

 

[Ron in Regina]

Good morning.

 

[petros]

Good morning.

It is to those survived another night of savagery based on lies.

Oct 7 Oct 7 Oct 7

Repeat it enough and....

‘Buying Quiet’: Inside the Israeli Plan That Propped Up Hamas

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu gambled that a strong Hamas (but not too strong) would keep the peace and reduce pressure for a Palestinian state.

www.nytimes.com

Netanyahu’s much-delayed corruption trial resumes: Here’s what’s to know

Netanyahu, who did not attend Monday’s hearing, has described charges against him as a ‘witch-hunt’.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[petros]

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Opinion | Israelis Would Rather Be Lied to Than Face the Painful Truth
Yossi Klein
Feb 14, 2024
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A protester wears a shirt depicting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu during a demonstration to demand the release of the hostages taken by Hamas, in Tel Aviv, in January.Credit: Leo Correa /AP

The government is against everyone. Against Hamas, against Hezbollah, against the army and against the public. Hamas doesn't care what happens to the Gazans; does the government care what happens to us? Like sailors abandoning a sinking ship they care for themselves. Looting, taking everything they can. Passing funds to friends, helping the ultra-Orthodox, ignoring the fighters.

The soldiers also understand by now that today the government is fighting on their backs. They are its cannon fodder. They are neither out of touch nor idiots. They see where the money goes, they see the extension of reserve duty, the incompetence to deal with the displaced Israelis, the apathy toward the hostages. They are astounded to see how every week the war's goal changes. From "toppling Hamas" in the past to "absolute victory" now. Who knows what this "absolute victory" is, for which they're sacrificing their lives?

'If we don't offer an alternative to chaos in Gaza, we'll end up with Hamas rule again'
The media knows. Journalists who can analyze every second in Sinwar's mind know what happens in Netanyahu's. They know that "absolute victory" means preserving Netanyahu's rule. They know and keep silent. They know there are no other goals, no plans. No "day after." No toppling and no releasing. They all serve the same purpose, the fighters who will fall and the hostages who will be released. That's the goal, and from that everything derives. This is what must be mentioned in every report.

Journalists know, but they're not reporting what the public must know, only what the public wants to know. What doesn't it want to know? That its sons are fighting for Netanyahu. A survey conducted by Nimrod Nir and Nimrod Zeldin of Hebrew University found that most of the public think Channel 1 is the most reliable. It is also the least watched. Conclusion: Reliability doesn't count. The public prefers being lied to than being tormented with the painful truth.

Commentators don't recite the painful truth to the cameras like hostages with a gun to their head. They practice psychological terrorism, present a false spectacle of reservists who are willing to serve two to three more years as long as the goal is achieved. They cover up the fact that the goal is deliberately vague.

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But the government doesn't appreciate their submissive devotion and treats the commentators like reserve soldiers. Who does it approach to report on 30 dead hostages, Alon Ben David? To whom does it send Brig-Gen. Barak Hiram to explain shelling a community center with hostages in it, Nir Dvori? No. It goes to the New York Times.

The media accepts the humiliation with its head bowed. It abandons the stage to the worthless speeches of politicians with nothing to say. Instead of information, it floods us with hostage stories to mournful harp sounds. It doesn't want to spoil the joy over releasing two hostages with the alarming number of killed Gazans.

The television studios think we're morons, that it's easy to feed us nonsense but not bad news. Bad news that is "cleared for publication" cannot be concealed with "impressive achievements" and "successes." They won't tell the truth: that from now on the war is a whim of one dangerous cynic. It would hurt the "united nation" narrative they're fostering. They don't want us to think that anyone who is killed from now won't be falling in defense of the country, but in defense of the government. They don't query, they hide. Instead of information there's a snowjob. A blizzard of unimportant information. This and that division moved from here to there and from there to here.

That's not relevant. That's not interesting. What is interesting? The hostages, the displaced Israelis and the attack in Rafah.

How do we win without eliminating thousands of refugees? How do we get rid of them? We "transport" them. Sure, the brilliant minds who don't even know how to take care of 100,000 Israeli refugees "will know" how to "transport" 1.4 million Gazan refugees? Like sheep, like oranges? On the face of it, it's easy. You shower them with leaflets telling them to transport themselves. And whoever remains? May Allah have mercy on him.

I have a suggestion for the pollster Dr. Camil Fuchs: Check whether the public supports or opposes an act in Rafah during which, say, 5,000 old people, women and children will be killed. My guess: The public will support it, providing they don't have to see it.

Israelis would rather be lied to than face the painful truth | Opinion

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